[Localization] Should I build the "ts_zh_TW_cleaned" to lupdate the qtcreator_zh_TW.ts?

Wed May 10 13:12:25 CEST 2023

Hello Eike.

After using *"ts_zh_TW_cleaned"* target to lupdate the *qtcreator_zh_TW.ts*,
those "vanished" and "obsolete" strings indeed disappeared.

However, I noticed that the total components in this lupdated
*qtcreator_zh_TW.ts*
is *way less than* the current *qtcreator_de.ts*.

   - The lupdated *qtcreator_zh_TW.ts*: about *36* components
   - The current *qtcreator_de.ts*: over *100* components

And one of the biggest differences between them is that the former
(lupdated qtcreator_zh_TW.ts) doesn't have *QmlDesigner::XXXX* components.

What happened? Is it normal? If not, what do I miss?

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Haowei Hsu

Haowei Hsu <hwhsu1231 at gmail.com> 於 2023年5月10日 週三 下午5:43寫道：

> BTW,
>
> If the ts file generated by *"ts_zh_TW_cleaned"* is the one suitable to
> be pushed to the repo,
> does that mean I should abandon the current pushed changes related to
> *"ts_zh_TW"*?
>
> l10n(zh_TW): Update translations (Id8be4390) · Gerrit Code Review
> (qt-project.org)
> <https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt-creator/qt-creator/+/476711>
> l10n(zh_TW): lupdate qtcreator_zh_TW.ts (Ibbf9fd4f) · Gerrit Code Review
> (qt-project.org)
> <https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt-creator/qt-creator/+/476298>
>
> And then re-push a new *qtcreator_zh_TW.ts* lupdated by
> *"ts_zh_TW_cleaned"*?
>
> ---
> Haowei Hsu
>
> Haowei Hsu <hwhsu1231 at gmail.com> 於 2023年5月10日 週三 下午5:37寫道：
>
>> Got it!!
>>
>>
>>> It leaves obsolete translations in the file, but does not include source
>>> code locations. Do not use ;)
>>
>>
>> Then what about the following proposal?
>>
>> If I "don't need the suggestions" from Qt Linguist, then I can simply:
>>
>>
>>
>>  • use "ts_zh_TW_cleaned" target to lupdate the qtcreator_zh_TW.ts
>>>  • do translations in qtcreator_zh_TW.ts
>>>  • push the changes to Gerrit for review
>>>
>>
>>
>> without using "ts_zh_TW" target and those complicated Git operations.
>>> Right?
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Haowei Hsu
>>
>> Eike Ziller <Eike.Ziller at qt.io> 於 2023年5月10日 週三 下午5:27寫道：
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Am 10/05/2023 um 10:15 schrieb Haowei Hsu <hwhsu1231 at gmail.com>:
>>> >
>>> > By the way, what about this target "ts_zh_TW_no_locations"?
>>> > What's the difference from the other two targets?
>>>
>>> It leaves obsolete translations in the file, but does not include source
>>> code locations. Do not use ;)
>>>
>>> Br, Eike
>>>
>>> >
>>> > <image.png>
>>> > ---
>>> > Haowei Hsu
>>> >
>>> > Haowei Hsu <hwhsu1231 at gmail.com> 於 2023年5月10日 週三 下午4:12寫道：
>>> > Thanks for your detailed reply, Eike!!
>>> >
>>> > According to what you said,
>>> >
>>> > The ts_<lang> target creates .ts files that are good for using
>>> Linguist, but not suitable for submitting to the repository.
>>> > The ts_<lang>_cleaned target creates .ts files that are acceptable for
>>> the repository, but less suitable for Linguist
>>> >
>>> > If I "don't need the suggestions" from Qt Linguist, then I can simply:
>>> >     •
>>> > use "ts_zh_TW_cleaned" target to lupdate the qtcreator_zh_TW.ts
>>> >     • do translations in qtcreator_zh_TW.ts
>>> >     • push the changes to Gerrit for review
>>> >
>>> > without using "ts_zh_TW" target and those complicated Git operations.
>>> Right?
>>> >
>>> > ---
>>> > Haowei Hsu
>>> >
>>> > Eike Ziller <Eike.Ziller at qt.io> 於 2023年5月10日 週三 下午3:10寫道：
>>> > I can mainly tell you what I do:
>>> >
>>> > The ts_<lang> target creates .ts files that are good for using
>>> Linguist, but not suitable for submitting to the repository.
>>> >
>>> > The ts_<lang>_cleaned target creates .ts files that are acceptable for
>>> the repository, but less suitable for Linguist, because it doesn't contain
>>> the code locations and not the outdated translations that Linguist
>>> sometimes can use to suggest translations.
>>> >
>>> > So what I do is:
>>> >
>>> > - create a .ts file for updating the repository with ts_<lang>_cleaned
>>> and commit and push that to gerrit.
>>> > - I locally revert that commit (git revert HEAD)
>>> > - I create the .ts file for working with Linguist with ts_<lang> and
>>> commit that locally. After that the revert from the second step can be
>>> removed (git rebase -i)
>>> > - I do my translations and do separate commits for these
>>> >
>>> > So I end up with commits
>>> >
>>> > - translation of Y
>>> > - translation of X
>>> > - ts update with ts_<lang>
>>> > - ts update with ts_<lang>_cleaned
>>> >
>>> > Before pushing the translation changes to gerrit, I rebase them to
>>> before the "full" ts update (the ts_<lang> one) with git rebase -i, so I
>>> end up with
>>> >
>>> > - ts update with ts_<lang>
>>> > - translation of Y
>>> > - translation of X
>>> > - ts update with ts_<lang>_cleaned
>>> >
>>> > and push the translations to gerrit with "git push gerrit
>>> HEAD~1:refs/for/<branch>". The "HEAD~1" means that it pushes everything
>>> except for the top commit, which in my case then is the ts update with
>>> ts_<lang> which I do not want on gerrit.
>>> >
>>> > Br, Eike
>>> >
>>> > > Am 10/05/2023 um 08:28 schrieb Haowei Hsu <hwhsu1231 at gmail.com>:
>>> > >
>>> > > Hello Oswald and Eike,
>>> > >
>>> > > Previously, I submitted a change for lupdating qtcreator_zh_TW.ts by
>>> running the cmake --build command with ts_zh_TW target:
>>> > >
>>> > > cmake --build . --target ts_zh_TW <...>
>>> > >
>>> > > However recently, I found that there are other targets available:
>>> > >
>>> > > <image.png>
>>> > >
>>> > > Should I use another two ts_zh_TW_xxx targets to lupdate the
>>> qtcreator_zh_TW.ts?
>>> > > Since I noticed that the current qtcreator_zh_TW.ts lupdated by
>>> ts_zh_TW target has many
>>> > > translation fields marked as "vanished" or "obsolete".
>>> > >
>>> > > ---
>>> > > Haowei Hsu
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Eike Ziller
>>> > Principal Software Engineer
>>> >
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>>> >
>>>
>>> --
>>> Eike Ziller
>>> Principal Software Engineer
>>>
>>> Qt Group
>>> Erich-Thilo-Straße 10
>>> 12489 Berlin, Germany
>>> eike.ziller at qt.io
>>> https://qt.io
>>> Geschäftsführer: Mika Pälsi,
>>> Juha Varelius, Jouni Lintunen
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