[Qt-creator] Why QtC does not use QDockWidget for most tool-panel

Ziller Eike Eike.Ziller at theqtcompany.com
Thu Apr 7 10:10:50 CEST 2016


> On Apr 6, 2016, at 11:56 PM, Prav <pr12og2 at programist.ru> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Tobias.
> 
>>> Can  QtC move all its panel to use QDockWidget or there are some isues with this?
>> We could have used dock widgets before. We did not want to as we see little sense in allowing users to shuffle around widgets.
> Well ... why you see no sense? How to work with one-window app in multydisplay workplace. This definitely limits the developer.
> 
> 
>> Currently there is no way to use QtC better if you have multiple monitors.
>> That did improve somewhat in the last couple of versions. At least you can detach editor windows now.
> In 4.0.0 rc1 snapshot April 6 I did not get how to detach editor. Could you explain which version and how?

You can open additional editor windows since Qt Creator 2.8. Window > Open in New Window, or use the little button in the top-right corner of the editor tool bar.

> Moreover things which were attahed to the left can not be ataged to the right. Which is so annoying ...
>> Why should it matter which side of the screen something is displayed?
> It would allow me to see different panel to the left and to the right of the code ... this is actually why DockWidget exist ... to
> allow people make their workplace the way they feel comfortable.
> 
> 
>>> because having only one colum is totally not enogth to see content of
>>> "Outline", "Open Docs" and "Prohect" pannels which needs all the time.
>> There are keyboard shortcuts to switch between those views, so at least you can switch between them all without having to fiddle with the mouse.
> Better to see everything without pressing anything.
> 
> 
>> There are lots of really fast and convenient ways to get around your code and I do personally not consider the sidebar widgets as fast nor convenient and hardly ever use them.
> You mean they have something to improve or independent of implementation this is something not usefull as an idea?
> 
> 
>> I prefer the locator for the navigation tasks other people use the sidebar widgets for. In my opinion the locator is easily the best feature in creator!
>> Just hit Ctrl-k to focus the locator. Then type ". <symbol>" (where symbol is any method, function, variable, ...). This takes you straight to its definition in the current file.
>> Enter "<filename>" into the locator to jump straight to that file (independent of whether it is open or not).
> Ok ... you made me to force myself to use this.
> 
> 
>> There is a lot more the locator can do for you: Open a web page, view help, jump to classes and methods, ... .
> So for example "c qtv" should give me QTableView as one of options. But it did not !?
> Why ... if this is already implemented in editor ... why here in locator ... which is exactly for searching ... this fast-type is absent!
> 
> 
>> Ctrl-Tab also lets you navigate your open files... (Or was that Alt-Tab or Shift-Tab?).
> Ctrl-Tab. I use it a lot. But in "Open docs" panel files are sorted alphbetically so sometimers it is easier to find them there (I agree that
> I need to test locator for this purpose also ... and I will).
> 
> 
> 
> Another help of using QDockWidget could be simultaneously edit code and edit widget-base-UI ... for ex. at second monitor I put
> my UI editing panel-widget and on the main monitor code editor. Would not it be nice ?!

You currently cannot put the UI editor into a separate window, but you can put your code into a separate window.

You can rearrange and pull out the individual panels in design mode, and in debug/analyze mode.

> Because all current switches from UI to code and to UI back and to code again are so on ... let's say ... frustrating.
> 
> 
> Visual Studio 4.0 had no or limited docing functionality. Now look at current Visual Studio. EVERYTHING is dock-windows.
> You can layout everything with whatever way you want. You can dock Everythin to everything.
> May be history of VS evolution can bring us to the idea that it is better to allow people layout things ... independent to how often QtC developers
> themselves need this fature. Because QtC devs could never ever had the situation like user.
> For example I expect that in Qt Company devs does not practice multi-monitor workstations so using dock-widgets never seemed important.
> 
> In most cases I agree that opinion of QtC devs is important ... but "color and taste" must be treated differently I think. I mean always prefer to
> allow user do things way he prefers.
> 
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