[Qt-creator] [Development] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

[Simon Hausmann]

I just had a look at KUserFeedback and I'm impressed.


Looks like a really good combination of very useful providers, UI, administration and server bits - all in one relatively small package. And for those not liking the PHP server part, it appears that that would be a piece that is relatively easy to replace - although the code looks very clean.


Also very cool that you're using this in production for GammaRay.


/That/ is something that would be awesome as part of the Qt project IMHO. Sensible scope, production tested and easy to use. (But I can totally understand that it might make more sense to remain in the KDE frameworks)



Simon

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From: Development <development-bounces+simon.hausmann=qt.io at qt-project.org> on behalf of Volker Krause <volker.krause at kdab.com>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 10:20:23 AM
To: development at qt-project.org; qt-creator at qt-project.org
Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

Hi,

as numerous people have asked me to comment on this by now, let me just do
that here publicly (representing KDE's KUserFeedback, not KDAB):

Tino is well aware of KUserFeedback, we discussed that last year already in
detail. So it definitely was considered as a possible solution for this.
I do not know why it was ultimately decided to implement a new framework, in
particular if that's due to conceptual or technical reasons, or licensing.


With the KDAB hat back on, we do use KUserFeedback in GammaRay since mid last
year, and it has so far provided a few useful insights, in particular
regarding to what extend we still need to support ancient Qt versions. But as
with any data, it's not the ultimate answer to all questions, and you need to
be very careful how to interpret it obviously. We have so far not received any
negative feedback with e.g. privacy concerns, but the approach KUserFeedback
takes there by default (and that we followed in GammaRay) is intentionally
very restrained.

Regards,
Volker

On Thursday, 22 February 2018 14:58:55 CET Tino Pyssysalo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The idea is to develop a generic library/plugin, which anyone could use for
> analytics. The backend can be any storage and The Qt Company does not
> provide that.

> We plan to use the same backend, which we already use in online installers
> to collect statistics about installations. At least in case of Qt Creator,
> the plan is to make some analysis results available for the community.
> Obviously, we do not do that for our commercial tooling.

> Analytics is opt-in and disabled by default in Qt Creator. We plan to ask
> user in the installer, if the user wish to participate in Qt UX
> improvement. If the answers is no, the analytics plugin is never installed.
>  When the creator is started for the first time, it will show a dialog,
> consisting a list of collected data items and an option to enable/disable
> the plugin. There will be a new output pane, which shows collected data,
> conversions methods, if any used, and transmitted data to the user.
 --
> Tino
>
>
> On 22/02/2018, 15.26, "Simon Hausmann"
> <Simon.Hausmann at qt.io<mailto:Simon.Hausmann at qt.io>> wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Can you provide a bit more information about how this plugin / frontend fits
> into the Qt project? Where is the collected data sent to and how is it
> accessible to the community?

>
>
> (-1 from me, as I think this needs to be clarified)
>
>
>
> Simon
>
> ________________________________
> From: Development <development-bounces+simon.hausmann=qt.io at qt-project.org>
> on behalf of Tuukka Turunen <tuukka.turunen at qt.io>
 Sent: Thursday,
> February 22, 2018 2:14:14 PM
> To: Tino Pyssysalo; qt-creator at qt-project.org; development at qt-project.org
> Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry
> plugin in Qt Creator

>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> +1 for creating the repo, but what about qt/qtanalytics as a name? This item
> could be useful also for other applications.

>
>
> Yours,
>
>
>
>                              Tuukka
>
>
>
> From: Qt-creator <qt-creator-bounces+tuukka.turunen=qt.io at qt-project.org> on
> behalf of Tino Pyssysalo <tino.pyssysalo at qt.io>
 Date: Thursday, 22
> February 2018 at 13.04
> To: "qt-creator at qt-project.org" <qt-creator at qt-project.org>
> Subject: [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt
> Creator

>
>
> Description:
>
>
>
> Telemetry plugin (frontend) to collect usage data from Qt Creator to help
> improving Qt, Qt features, and Qt tools.

> Non-personal data items, such as duration the user spent in design mode,
> will be collected in a way, which is completely transparent to the user.

>
>
> Responsible: Tino Pyssysalo
>
>
>
> Repository: qt-creator/plugin-telemetry
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
> Tino Pyssysalo
>
> Senior Manager
>
>
>
> The Qt Company
>
> Hämeenkatu 14 C 25
>
> 33100 Tampere, Finland
>
> tino.pyssysalo at qt.io<mailto:tino.pyssysalo at qt.io>
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> +358 40 8615475
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> http://qt.io<http://qt.io/>
>
>
>
> The future is Written with Qt
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