[Qt-interest] How is the best way to learn C++ and Qt?

[Lucas Pereira Caixeta]

Thank´s for all answers =)

Well, i forgot to say, i know the basics of c++ and 90% of OOP.

I hope i´ll can help others here like you helped me.

Thankyou again.

Lucas P. Caixeta

2010/2/1 Jeffrey Brendecke <jwbrendecke at icanetix.com>

> I have not found any single book or resource that I could recommend.
>
> The best I have used so far were assigned text books from the university
> where
> I took some classes.
>
> Examples:
> Data Abstraction and Problem Solving with C++: Walls and Mirrors, 2nd Ed.,
> Carrano, Helman, Veroff (1998), Addison-Wesley.
>
> Data Structores & Algorithm Analysis in C++, 2nd Ed., Weiss (1999),
> Addison-Wesley.
>
> Outside of that is the often mentioned book by Stroustrup, which is a good
> place to look for some sane advice when confronted with often dogmatic
> differences of opinion of what is the right and wrong way of doing
> something.
>
> I have also found these helpful:
>
> C++ FAQs, 2nd Ed., Cline, Lomov, Girou (1999) Addison-Wesley
>
> and to the Exception C++ Series by Herb Sutter et. al.
>
> In many ways C++ seems more like Python than Java. It allows mixed
> procedural
> and object oriented ways of approaching problems in addition to generic
> programming approaches without forcing you to use any one or the other.
>
> It takes a long time to learn and longer to master, but gives you
> incredible
> flexibility at the cost of having to know what you are doing. Using IDEs to
> learn it will tend, in my opinion, to encourage bad programming and design
> habits. It may be helpful to try to forget much of what was learned using
> garbage-collected languages or rapid design tools, as these also in my
> experience translate to difficulty in properly designing in C++. Learning C
> can help with some of the basic syntax and concepts, but being a good C
> programmer does not necessarily mean being a good C++ programmer. It is in
> many ways a rich world unto itself.
>
>
> --------------------
> Date: Tuesday 02 February 2010 01:11
> From: Jason H <scorp1us at yahoo.com>
> To: Ross Driedger <ross at earz.ca>, qt-interest at trolltech.com
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Qt-interest] How is the best way to learn C++ and Qt?
> --------------------
>
> > I'd recommend the book "Design Patterns In Qt"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Ross Driedger <ross at earz.ca>
> > To: qt-interest at trolltech.com
> > Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 6:31:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Qt-interest] How is the best way to learn C++ and Qt?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1-Feb-10, at 5:15 PM, qt-interest-request at trolltech.com wrote:
> >
> > Message: 4
> >
> > >Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 20:08:56 -0200
> > >From: Lucas Pereira Caixeta <lpcnew at gmail.com>
> > >Subject: [Qt-interest] How is the best way to learn C++ and Qt?
> > >To: qt-interest at trolltech.com
> > >Message-ID:
> > ><4735de921002011408k2af79bf4v2fd7377ec5a62171 at mail.gmail.com>
> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > >Hey guys,
> > >
> > >Well, i?m working now with c++ and qt, in my past i worked with ASP
> =/...
> > >So, i want (please) to know your opinion about the best way to learn c++
> > > and qt.
> >
> > Hi Lucas,
> >
> > Good question.  Sometimes we have someone showing up asking a Qt question
> > and it is obvious from their code that they are still struggling with the
> > C++.  If you don't have a reasonable handle on the language, Qt will be
> > next to impossible.
> >
> > My advice, and others may differ, is to learn C++ to a point were you are
> > comfortable with designing and implementing an efficient class hierarchy,
> > proper object management, have a good handle on the basics of multiple
> > inheritance, including when not to use it, const correctness, templates
> and
> > virtual functions.  As someone who has taught C and C++ to programmers of
> > other languages, one hurdle that comes up consistently is knowing if the
> > object you are dealing with is an object, pointer or reference, and the
> > implications of each.
> >
> > In my case, I would add stl, though Qt comes with some homegrown generic
> > programming constructs -- but I'm an unrepentant stl-head who prefers to
> > use it over Qt's constructs.  Which ever route you take, using collection
> > classes is the way to go.
> >
> > When it comes to the graphical stuff, you will be dealing with pointers
> for
> > the most part.  One of the things that took me a bit to get used to is
> what
> > heap allocated things to leave to the framework to delete and what I had
> to
> > do myself.  Qt's system is not 'Garbage Collection' in the text book
> sense,
> > but it does help in not having to write a ton of delete's.
> >
> > >Everybody starts with c++ and qt here some day, so i?ll get goood
> opinion
> >
> > I don't know if my opinion is 'good', but it is mine. :)
> >
> >
> > Ross Driedger
> > ross_at_earz.ca
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