[Qt-interest] How is the best way to learn C++ and Qt?

Tue Feb 2 03:44:13 CET 2010

What do you think of the book "C + + HOW TO PROGRAM - DEITEL?

2010/2/2 Lucas Pereira Caixeta <lpcnew at gmail.com>

> Thank´s for all answers =)
>
> Well, i forgot to say, i know the basics of c++ and 90% of OOP.
>
> I hope i´ll can help others here like you helped me.
>
> Thankyou again.
>
> Lucas P. Caixeta
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> 2010/2/1 Jeffrey Brendecke <jwbrendecke at icanetix.com>
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> I have not found any single book or resource that I could recommend.
>>
>> The best I have used so far were assigned text books from the university
>> where
>> I took some classes.
>>
>> Examples:
>> Data Abstraction and Problem Solving with C++: Walls and Mirrors, 2nd Ed.,
>> Carrano, Helman, Veroff (1998), Addison-Wesley.
>>
>> Data Structores & Algorithm Analysis in C++, 2nd Ed., Weiss (1999),
>> Addison-Wesley.
>>
>> Outside of that is the often mentioned book by Stroustrup, which is a good
>> place to look for some sane advice when confronted with often dogmatic
>> differences of opinion of what is the right and wrong way of doing
>> something.
>>
>> I have also found these helpful:
>>
>> C++ FAQs, 2nd Ed., Cline, Lomov, Girou (1999) Addison-Wesley
>>
>> and to the Exception C++ Series by Herb Sutter et. al.
>>
>> In many ways C++ seems more like Python than Java. It allows mixed
>> procedural
>> and object oriented ways of approaching problems in addition to generic
>> programming approaches without forcing you to use any one or the other.
>>
>> It takes a long time to learn and longer to master, but gives you
>> incredible
>> flexibility at the cost of having to know what you are doing. Using IDEs
>> to
>> learn it will tend, in my opinion, to encourage bad programming and design
>> habits. It may be helpful to try to forget much of what was learned using
>> garbage-collected languages or rapid design tools, as these also in my
>> experience translate to difficulty in properly designing in C++. Learning
>> C
>> can help with some of the basic syntax and concepts, but being a good C
>> programmer does not necessarily mean being a good C++ programmer. It is in
>> many ways a rich world unto itself.
>>
>>
>> --------------------
>> Date: Tuesday 02 February 2010 01:11
>> From: Jason H <scorp1us at yahoo.com>
>> To: Ross Driedger <ross at earz.ca>, qt-interest at trolltech.com
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: [Qt-interest] How is the best way to learn C++ and Qt?
>> --------------------
>>
>> > I'd recommend the book "Design Patterns In Qt"
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Ross Driedger <ross at earz.ca>
>> > To: qt-interest at trolltech.com
>> > Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 6:31:24 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Qt-interest] How is the best way to learn C++ and Qt?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 1-Feb-10, at 5:15 PM, qt-interest-request at trolltech.com wrote:
>> >
>> > Message: 4
>> >
>> > >Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 20:08:56 -0200
>> > >From: Lucas Pereira Caixeta <lpcnew at gmail.com>
>> > >Subject: [Qt-interest] How is the best way to learn C++ and Qt?
>> > >To: qt-interest at trolltech.com
>> > >Message-ID:
>> > ><4735de921002011408k2af79bf4v2fd7377ec5a62171 at mail.gmail.com>
>> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> > >
>> > >Hey guys,
>> > >
>> > >Well, i?m working now with c++ and qt, in my past i worked with ASP
>> =/...
>> > >So, i want (please) to know your opinion about the best way to learn
>> c++
>> > > and qt.
>> >
>> > Hi Lucas,
>> >
>> > Good question.  Sometimes we have someone showing up asking a Qt
>> question
>> > and it is obvious from their code that they are still struggling with
>> the
>> > C++.  If you don't have a reasonable handle on the language, Qt will be
>> > next to impossible.
>> >
>> > My advice, and others may differ, is to learn C++ to a point were you
>> are
>> > comfortable with designing and implementing an efficient class
>> hierarchy,
>> > proper object management, have a good handle on the basics of multiple
>> > inheritance, including when not to use it, const correctness, templates
>> and
>> > virtual functions.  As someone who has taught C and C++ to programmers
>> of
>> > other languages, one hurdle that comes up consistently is knowing if the
>> > object you are dealing with is an object, pointer or reference, and the
>> > implications of each.
>> >
>> > In my case, I would add stl, though Qt comes with some homegrown generic
>> > programming constructs -- but I'm an unrepentant stl-head who prefers to
>> > use it over Qt's constructs.  Which ever route you take, using
>> collection
>> > classes is the way to go.
>> >
>> > When it comes to the graphical stuff, you will be dealing with pointers
>> for
>> > the most part.  One of the things that took me a bit to get used to is
>> what
>> > heap allocated things to leave to the framework to delete and what I had
>> to
>> > do myself.  Qt's system is not 'Garbage Collection' in the text book
>> sense,
>> > but it does help in not having to write a ton of delete's.
>> >
>> > >Everybody starts with c++ and qt here some day, so i?ll get goood
>> opinion
>> >
>> > I don't know if my opinion is 'good', but it is mine. :)
>> >
>> >
>> > Ross Driedger
>> > ross_at_earz.ca
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