[Qt-interest] Windows 8 Store

Mihail Naydenov mlists at ymail.com
Thu May 5 16:20:42 CEST 2011


----- Original Message ----

> From: BRM <bm_witness at yahoo.com>
> To: qt-interest <qt-interest at trolltech.com>
> Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 4:46:26 PM
> Subject: [Qt-interest] Fw:  Windows 8 Store
> 
> 
> 
>  While I'll agree in many respects, their current path does not lead to 
>  absorption by Microsoft - namely b/c Microsoft's future is becoming more  and 

>  more less certain.
>  Even on their current path - which can change  very  easily to Android or back 
>
> to 
> 
>  Symbia or Meego or whatever  - Nokia can be  around for a long time.
> 
>  Comparatively, Microsoft's  future is ever  increasingly becoming shorter due 
>to 
>
> 
>  (i) their  inability to make a mobile  platform that people want, (ii) their 
>   increasing amounts of debt, (iii)  their now falling sales of Windows as  
>more 
>
>  take on tablets and smart phones  instead of laptops and  desktops, and (iv) 
> their 
> 
>  own internal   structure/politics/demands to only ever be the sole platform 
>for 
>
>   everything  (which is the hubris that will ultimately lead to their   
>downfall).
> 

I agree with most of what you said, exept (ii) and (iii). Do you have any proof? 


Especially on (iii) - the low sales. Last I time checked they are doing 
***great*** there. 


And that is the reason I began this discussion in the first place.

Win for desktop (and desk in general) are not going anywhere anytime soon (ever 
IMHO). 

Looking on the success of 7, I'd image 8 will also have its glory days, and if 
coupled with a store - this is well worth investing in.

The question is - is Qt going to be a platform of choice.

MihailNaydenov 


>  $0.02
> 
>  Ben
> 
> P.S. Meant to send this to the  list initially.
> 
> > ----- Original Message  ----
> > 
> >  > From: Atlant Schmidt <aschmidt at dekaresearch.com>
> >  >  To: "lorn.potter at nokia.com" <lorn.potter at nokia.com>; "sscc at mweb.co.za" 
> > ><sscc at mweb.co.za>; "qt-interest at qt.nokia.com" <qt-interest at qt.nokia.com>
> >  >  Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 7:10:32 AM
> > > Subject: Re:  [Qt-interest] Windows 8  Store
> > > 
> > > Lorn:
> >  > 
> > > > 1. Smartphones (Windows  Phone)
> > > >  2. The next  billion
> > > > 3. Future  Disruptions
> >  > >
> > > > Take your pick on which  one involves   Qt.
> > > 
> > >   But Lorn, that's *PRECISELY* the problem  for   us
> > >   out here in the real world. We (and more   importantly,
> > >   the  people who pay us) don't want  disruptions;  we
> > >   want a roadmap that  clearly and  smoothly  addresses
> > >   our needs for our current project  and  as well  as
> > >   for the next projects that we  foresee in our own
> > >     roadmaps.*
> > > 
> >  >   On the other hand, Nokia's leadership  wants  dis-
> >  >   ruptions because, frankly, the path they were  on
> >  >   would  have certainly lead to their eventual   collapse
> > >   and the path they've  now jumped onto  likely  leads
> > >   to their eventual assimilation into  the  Borg,  err,
> > >   absorption into  Microsoft.
> > > 
> > >   So Nokia  wants a   disruption, but most of us out
> > >   here don't.
> > > 
> > >                           Atlant
> > > 
> > > 
> > > *  And  frankly, for many of  us, Qt's roadmap has been
> >  >   very-much misaligned  with ours  since Nokia  bought
> > >   the Trolls. Nokia has been focusing far   too  much
> > >   on mobility and far too little on the desktop   and
> > >    have been nearly ignoring embedded.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original  Message-----
> > >  From:  qt-interest-bounces+aschmidt=dekaresearch.com at qt.nokia.com 
> > >[mailto:qt-interest-bounces+aschmidt=dekaresearch.com at qt.nokia.com]    On 
> >Behalf 
> >
> > >Of lorn.potter at nokia.com
> > >   Sent:  Wednesday, May 04, 2011 22:55
> > > To: sscc at mweb.co.za; qt-interest at qt.nokia.com
> >  >  Subject:  Re: [Qt-interest] Windows 8 Store
> > > 
> > > On 5/05/11  12:43 AM, "ext Alex  Strickland" <sscc at mweb.co.za> wrote:
> > > 
> > >  >On  04/05/2011 16:13, Jason H wrote:
> > >  >
> > > >> Sure  it would never be as  big as Apple or  MS or Google/Amazon's 
>Android
> > >  >>but it
> > >  >>  would help Qt app authors... The  attractive WIN here that  isn't  
>done
> > > >>anywhere
> > >  >> else  is you could get the same app on your  phone as for your   
>desktop.
> > > >>(Bundle
> > > >> Phone and  desktop   versions, pending application suitability of 
>course)
> > >  >>
> > >  >>  Just a thought.
> > >  >
> > > >I just wish I could  figure why Qt has any  value  to Nokia any  more.
> > > 
> > >   http://conversations.nokia.com/nokia-strategy-2011/
> > > 
> > >  1.   Smartphones (Windows Phone)
> > > 2. The next billion
> >  > 3. Future   Disruptions
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Take  your pick on which one involves   Qt.
> > > 
> > > 
> >  > 
> > > 
> > > -
> > > Lorn Potter
> > >   Senior Software Engineer, Nokia, Qt  Mobility
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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