[Qt-interest] Windows 8 Store
Atlant Schmidt
aschmidt at dekaresearch.com
Thu May 5 18:17:01 CEST 2011
Mihail:
> Especially on (iii) - the low sales. Last I time checked
> they are doing ***great*** there.
Nope; PC sales are actually dropping (and we can
probably assume that licensed Windows sales are
dropping roughly proportionally). See:
http://moconews.net/article/419-pc-sales-decline-mobile-devices-largely-to-blame/
> If you eagerly awaited the arrival of your iPad 2 but decided
> to nurse that old PC along for a while longer, you're not alone:
> fewer people are buying PCs these days compared to a year ago,
> according to IDC.
>
> In the first quarter PC vendors shipped 80 million PCs, down
> from 83 million in the first quarter of 2010. It was a rough
> quarter in several parts of the world, such as the Middle East
> and Japan, but the decline was especially pronounced in the
> U.S., where vendors shipped 10 percent fewer PCs as compared
> to last year. The reason? Tablets.
(more)
We should be able to answer the "debt" question (point ii)
as well (given that Microsoft is a publicly-traded company
and must report that sort of information), but I can't look
right now...
Atlant
-----Original Message-----
From: qt-interest-bounces+aschmidt=dekaresearch.com at qt.nokia.com [mailto:qt-interest-bounces+aschmidt=dekaresearch.com at qt.nokia.com] On Behalf Of Mihail Naydenov
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:21
To: BRM; qt-interest
Subject: Re: [Qt-interest] Windows 8 Store
----- Original Message ----
> From: BRM <bm_witness at yahoo.com>
> To: qt-interest <qt-interest at trolltech.com>
> Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 4:46:26 PM
> Subject: [Qt-interest] Fw: Windows 8 Store
>
>
>
> While I'll agree in many respects, their current path does not lead to
> absorption by Microsoft - namely b/c Microsoft's future is becoming more and
> more less certain.
> Even on their current path - which can change very easily to Android or back
>
> to
>
> Symbia or Meego or whatever - Nokia can be around for a long time.
>
> Comparatively, Microsoft's future is ever increasingly becoming shorter due
>to
>
>
> (i) their inability to make a mobile platform that people want, (ii) their
> increasing amounts of debt, (iii) their now falling sales of Windows as
>more
>
> take on tablets and smart phones instead of laptops and desktops, and (iv)
> their
>
> own internal structure/politics/demands to only ever be the sole platform
>for
>
> everything (which is the hubris that will ultimately lead to their
>downfall).
>
I agree with most of what you said, exept (ii) and (iii). Do you have any proof?
Especially on (iii) - the low sales. Last I time checked they are doing
***great*** there.
And that is the reason I began this discussion in the first place.
Win for desktop (and desk in general) are not going anywhere anytime soon (ever
IMHO).
Looking on the success of 7, I'd image 8 will also have its glory days, and if
coupled with a store - this is well worth investing in.
The question is - is Qt going to be a platform of choice.
MihailNaydenov
> $0.02
>
> Ben
>
> P.S. Meant to send this to the list initially.
>
> > ----- Original Message ----
> >
> > > From: Atlant Schmidt <aschmidt at dekaresearch.com>
> > > To: "lorn.potter at nokia.com" <lorn.potter at nokia.com>; "sscc at mweb.co.za"
> > ><sscc at mweb.co.za>; "qt-interest at qt.nokia.com" <qt-interest at qt.nokia.com>
> > > Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 7:10:32 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Qt-interest] Windows 8 Store
> > >
> > > Lorn:
> > >
> > > > 1. Smartphones (Windows Phone)
> > > > 2. The next billion
> > > > 3. Future Disruptions
> > > >
> > > > Take your pick on which one involves Qt.
> > >
> > > But Lorn, that's *PRECISELY* the problem for us
> > > out here in the real world. We (and more importantly,
> > > the people who pay us) don't want disruptions; we
> > > want a roadmap that clearly and smoothly addresses
> > > our needs for our current project and as well as
> > > for the next projects that we foresee in our own
> > > roadmaps.*
> > >
> > > On the other hand, Nokia's leadership wants dis-
> > > ruptions because, frankly, the path they were on
> > > would have certainly lead to their eventual collapse
> > > and the path they've now jumped onto likely leads
> > > to their eventual assimilation into the Borg, err,
> > > absorption into Microsoft.
> > >
> > > So Nokia wants a disruption, but most of us out
> > > here don't.
> > >
> > > Atlant
> > >
> > >
> > > * And frankly, for many of us, Qt's roadmap has been
> > > very-much misaligned with ours since Nokia bought
> > > the Trolls. Nokia has been focusing far too much
> > > on mobility and far too little on the desktop and
> > > have been nearly ignoring embedded.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: qt-interest-bounces+aschmidt=dekaresearch.com at qt.nokia.com
> > >[mailto:qt-interest-bounces+aschmidt=dekaresearch.com at qt.nokia.com] On
> >Behalf
> >
> > >Of lorn.potter at nokia.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 22:55
> > > To: sscc at mweb.co.za; qt-interest at qt.nokia.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Qt-interest] Windows 8 Store
> > >
> > > On 5/05/11 12:43 AM, "ext Alex Strickland" <sscc at mweb.co.za> wrote:
> > >
> > > >On 04/05/2011 16:13, Jason H wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Sure it would never be as big as Apple or MS or Google/Amazon's
>Android
> > > >>but it
> > > >> would help Qt app authors... The attractive WIN here that isn't
>done
> > > >>anywhere
> > > >> else is you could get the same app on your phone as for your
>desktop.
> > > >>(Bundle
> > > >> Phone and desktop versions, pending application suitability of
>course)
> > > >>
> > > >> Just a thought.
> > > >
> > > >I just wish I could figure why Qt has any value to Nokia any more.
> > >
> > > http://conversations.nokia.com/nokia-strategy-2011/
> > >
> > > 1. Smartphones (Windows Phone)
> > > 2. The next billion
> > > 3. Future Disruptions
> > >
> > >
> > > Take your pick on which one involves Qt.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > > Lorn Potter
> > > Senior Software Engineer, Nokia, Qt Mobility
> > >
> > >
> > >
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