[Qt-qml] QML if Nokia goes WinPhone7?

[Jason H]

Good news, you're wrong! :-)

Well Nokia, unlike other developers (!!) can customize anything about WP7. This 
is huge. You're looking a commercial MS kernel and Nokia apps. 


MS has no interest in Qt or killing Qt. Its not even a threat on their radar, 
because Qt can't happen in WP7. And MS is doing well with .Net, and web services 
are the current growth industry. So Qt is like a Borland compiler. Sure you'll 
find it but you don't worry about that market.





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From: Charley Bay <charleyb123 at gmail.com>
To: Jason H <scorp1us at yahoo.com>
Cc: Mark S. Townsley <mstownsley at gmail.com>; qt-qml at trolltech.com
Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 12:48:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Qt-qml] QML if Nokia goes WinPhone7?


Jason H spaketh:

Qt-interest has had a thread on this, and engadget has several posts. 
>
>
>However on your points:
>
>"Specifically, through this deal, Microsoft effectively has primary control of 
>the Qt product line."
>is absolutely false. The git repos are open, and will remain that way. Someone 
>in qt-interest said keep with the main branch until they stop accepting 
>contributions, then fork away.
>

We agree that the git repos are accessible, and an LGPL fork is always an 
option.  In that sense, the code won't "disappear".

However, the assertion is that the Nokia<==>Microsoft deal gives Microsoft 
strangle-hold control over the Nokia product line (operating system and 
development tools pipeline), and Nokia no longer has business interest in Qt.  
Microsoft will use this influence to "embrace and extend" Qt (e.g., "break" or 
otherwise coerce Qt to rely upon "convenience" features in WinPhone7), or coerce 
Nokia to abandon future Qt efforts (because Nokia has no longer controls its own 
OS).

Thus, absent new information, the Qt/QML codebase will merely grow stale, unless 
a new party "picks it up".  But, that party will *not* be Nokia, and will *not* 
be Microsoft.  (My unsupported assertion, I'm not affiliated with either 
company, except as a commercial Nokia customer.)


Qt and MeeGo are still essential to the tablet line. WP7 won't ever be on a 
tablet because MS wants a full Win7 license for it. So MeeGo is it.
>

We'll see how excited Intel is about Meego as time marches on.  However, I don't 
expect any serious effort by Nokia on Meego going forward.
 

We'll still have what we want, but my bet is that the enhancements will come 
slower.
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Slower, yes.  The question is whether it becomes "stale".  If so, it's merely no 
longer a viable development platform.  (New development would in that case not 
reasonably consider it as a viable development platform.)

IMHO, that was (almost) entirely Microsoft's goal (competitor elimination).
 

QML is absolutely awesome and is likely immensely  important to the tablet 
endeavor. So I think its here to stay.
>

We agree QML is absolutely awesome.  We disagree it will be awesome under a 
slower/lower development effort (e.g., without full-throated institutional 
backing).

I really do hope I'm wrong.


      
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