[Development] Qt Hebrew

[Genghis Khan]

On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 20:15:14 +0100
Andre Somers <andre at familiesomers.nl> wrote:

> Op 1-2-2013 17:41, Genghis Khan schreef:
> > On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 09:26:24 +0000
> > Knoll Lars <Lars.Knoll at digia.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Jan 31, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Genghis Khan <genghiskhan at gmx.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I would like to initiate a new group
> >>> <http://qt-project.org/groups> called "Qt Hebrew" for Hebrew
> >>> speakers, where new and potential Hebrew speaking contributors to
> >>> Qt and to Qt software will be able to join and to share their
> >>> point of views on translations and report issues concerning to
> >>> RTL (Right to left) alignment in software.
> >> Sure, local groups are always welcome.
> I disagree. At least where there are forums attached to the group.
> There should be a real need for a group with a dedicated forum to be
> created. That means that a community of some mass can be expected to
> make use of it. Also, there needs to be capacity to moderate the
> forum in question. I don't think we currently have a moderator in the
> team that speaks Hebrew.

What would be a proper reason to have dedicated group or a forum?
I will be delighted to be a moderator, if you would see me fit.

> >>> Due to a severe and deliberate depression of access for new Hebrew
> >>> speaking contributors to Free Software projects, by certain
> >>> entities and personalities, I find the need of such group very
> >>> important.
> >> At least from the Qt Project perspective there is no such thing as
> >> trying to keep certain groups/nationalities away. We're a technical
> >> project and open to everybody who shares our interest in Qt and
> >> related technologies.
> > Yes, of course. The purpose of another FOSS group is to be a safe
> > heaven to newcomers or an opposition to current depressors at FOSS
> > amongst Hebrew speakers.
> Come on, please. Don't make unfounded accusations into the wild like 
> this. Either tell us what you mean (where do you see such
> "opposition" and "depression"?) or don't bring it up at all. Notably:
> do you see such problems inside the Qt community?

I do not see a problem in Qt community and as long as those who will
manage KDE would be like Mr. Diego Iastrubni there would not be any.

There are problems in Hebrew FLOSS in general and especially GTK+.
A group or another forum section at Qt would be proper in order to join
more Hebrew speaking people into Qt and to FLOSS in general.

Currently, I do not find it necessary to make actual references to
people who are jobless, troll, and who are engaging in software
translation (and incidentally corrupting credits and depressing others
from participating) merely to find their way to manifest themselves.

If you want to get references, please ask me directly.

> >>> I would like the administrator or on of the administrators to be
> >>> Diego Iastrubni who is translating for KDE, who has a healthy
> >>> approach with translations against daily communications and is
> >>> welcoming.
> >> Have you talked to him about it? I know Diego since a long time,
> >> and he would certainly be a good person to lead the group.
> > No, not yet. Once a group will be created I will ask Diego to join.
> > Since Diego is a busy person, I did not want to bother him due to
> > not knowing whether a group will or will not be created.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. You can apply for new groups 
> through the proper channels, and you can't expect us to just add 
> somebody that you have not even spoken to yet as a moderator for you. 

So I did at Wed, 2 Jan 2013 09:50:33 +0100. I have not received a
respond, yet.

I have no doubt that Diego Iastrubni would agree when a group is
created.

> You can apply for a new group on qt-project.org as soon as you gain 
> enough points. See the http://qt-project.org/ranks page for details.

Will do.

> Decisions on what groups are created and who is to moderate them are
> not taken in this list.

I have took this into my attention.

Thank you.

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