[Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

[NIkolai Marchenko]

I am yet to hear an answer about what is going to be done in case the
person mistreating is an active contributor.
Will you chose potential harm, over actual benefit of having such a person
on the project?

The edge case being, for example, if a module maintainer is mistreating
someone for whatever reason.
The other person can just stop trying to interact with that maintainer, but
I fail to see how removing a maintainer over a potential benefit of someone
not being mistreated actually benefits the project.

I've heard from people in this thread that it _is_ a problem you are trying
to sovle and there _have _ been mistreatment.
Now, I am not asking for dirty laundry, but isn't community supposed to
know at least in broad strokes, the kind of problems yo uare even tring to
solve before actually voting on anything?
Maybe the community have a better answer for these specific problems?

On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 4:56 PM Martin Smith <Martin.Smith at qt.io> wrote:

>
> >1) To contact the contributor first and try to resolve the issue civilly.
> >2) To seek help with a third party (another contributor) who is known to
> the
> >alleged victim and who can act as mediator to try an resolve it.
> >3) If 1) and 2) don't work he/she may also bring it to the attention of
> the
> >community (e.g. the mailing list). The community is then free to react or
> not to
> >react.
>
> You just specified a code of conduct. The problem with your code of
> conduct is that it isn't guaranteed to end in resolution.
>
> >The implication that currently, if you're feeling mistreated, it's
> impossible to act
> >(respectfully) against harassment seems rather far-fetched to me.
>
> But that isn't the implication. The implication is that a mistreated
> person can take the actions you have specified, and the result can be that
> the mistreatment, real or not, is not resolved.
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Konstantin Shegunov <kshegunov at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 3:48:49 PM
> To: Martin Smith
> Cc: development at qt-project.org
> Subject: Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct
>
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 4:09 PM Martin Smith <Martin.Smith at qt.io<mailto:
> Martin.Smith at qt.io>> wrote:
> In that case, if a contributor is mistreated by another contributor, what
> recourse does the victim have?
>
> 1) To contact the contributor first and try to resolve the issue civilly.
> 2) To seek help with a third party (another contributor) who is known to
> the alleged victim and who can act as mediator to try an resolve it.
> 3) If 1) and 2) don't work he/she may also bring it to the attention of
> the community (e.g. the mailing list). The community is then free to react
> or not to react.
>
> The implication that currently, if you're feeling mistreated, it's
> impossible to act (respectfully) against harassment seems rather
> far-fetched to me.
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