[Interest] "Flat Light" Style How?

Fri Feb 6 17:50:05 CET 2015

Hi Jason,

I am sorry to hear that you have been unhappy with the support you have received.

It is true that the bronze plan has rather 4 day long response times, and that you need to upgrade for faster times. On the other hand we can offer a resolution to large number of the support cases, including bronze ones.

We do also value the feedback and feature suggestions received through support. Of course not every feature request can be catered for, but many of the new features are developed based on these requests.

Yours,

Tuukka
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Lähettäjä: Jason H<mailto:jhihn at gmx.com>
Lähetetty: ‎6.‎2.‎2015 16:09
Vastaanottaja: Curtis Mitch<mailto:mitch.curtis at theqtcompany.com>
Kopio: interest at qt-project.org<mailto:interest at qt-project.org>
Aihe: Re: [Interest] "Flat Light" Style How?

All pretty simple:

1) Font sizes are simply too small.
2) I want to colorize the button. Flat style uses green accents, I want them to be various colors, like orange or blue.
3) Sometimes, I want the button to be that solid color with white text.

If I can't use Flat style, we're going to stop paying for mobile because we only got it because my boss liked it and thought it was as dynamically changable as a regular QML element. But if we can't change fonts, font sizes and colors (basic stuff) then it's no good to us.

And I'm going to go off-topic rant here.

I was hoping the paid support option wound be worth something. So far it hasn't. Currently, I'm struggling with 4 day response times, in which I get a basic sentence or question then I have to wait another 4 days. Sure I could upgrade to 2-day, but that's not the point. I think if I reply in the same hour or day I should be able to get a response faster.

The other reason why we got a Qt Desktop license was to use the Charts module, but it's not usable on a headless the server without some effort (I have to recompile everything) (compilers are not allowed on production servers) there is no command line installer (coming in 5.5?). But when I do use the chart module it elides all the text because I am rendering to QPdfWriter, and QPdfWriter doesn't account for pointSizes on various DPIs correctly, so I have to multiply it by 4 (300 logical dpi/72 assumed DPI=4)But now it thinks everything is too long. So the chart module doesn't work for us either. (I blame it on QPdfWiter fundamentally, but the charts module renders the graphics & line widths correctly so Charts has its own issue with deciding to elide text)

So I'm having to take actions that would rid ourselves of our need for commercial licenses. I was happier when we were just using the OpenSource stuff... when there was  no expectation of support. IRC and this Mailing list are far more effective at support than the commercial support channel.  I've been responsible for multiple companies buying Qt Enterprise licenses in the Trolltech days. And when I used support back then, I actually got what I would call "reasonable support". I'd even get code patches for fix bugs.  Right now I feel like I'm getting strung along, paying for abuse. If you're going to charge someone for something, you have to make sure they think the price is worth it.  I dove into the commercial offerings, and every time I hit bottom immediately. Or some rice-paper analogy.

And if you say I should upgrade our plan to the next level, that's going to be a very hard sell at this point. Our one closed issue thus far is one that changed a flag on a bug I already filed to 'Requested via Qt Support' And that issue isn't fixed yet either.

> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 at 8:13 AM
> From: "Curtis Mitch" <mitch.curtis at theqtcompany.com>
> To: "Jason H" <jhihn at gmx.com>, "Agocs Laszlo" <laszlo.agocs at theqtcompany.com>
> Cc: "interest at qt-project.org" <interest at qt-project.org>
> Subject: RE: [Interest] "Flat Light" Style How?
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: interest-bounces+mitch.curtis=theqtcompany.com at qt-project.org
> > [mailto:interest-bounces+mitch.curtis=theqtcompany.com at qt-project.org]
> > On Behalf Of Jason H
> > Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2015 7:46 PM
> > To: Agocs Laszlo
> > Cc: interest at qt-project.org
> > Subject: Re: [Interest] "Flat Light" Style How?
> >
> > Oh thanks!
> >
> > So immedautely, I notice issues.
> >
> > Any control that has text (TextField, Button) is not properly accounting
> > for a specified pointSize.
> >
> > How do I inherit from a flat style for a button?
> >
>
> What is your use case, exactly? It's nice to know what you'd like to achieve using the Flat style.
>
> >
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 at 12:11 PM
> > > From: "Agocs Laszlo" <laszlo.agocs at theqtcompany.com>
> > > To: "Jason H" <jhihn at gmx.com>
> > > Cc: "interest at qt-project.org" <interest at qt-project.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Interest] "Flat Light" Style How?
> > >
> > > QT_QUICK_CONTROLS_STYLE applies to all controls. Don't be misled by
> > the fact that the page is for enterprise controls.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Laszlo
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > From: Jason H <jhihn at gmx.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2015 6:06 PM
> > > To: Agocs Laszlo
> > > Cc: interest at qt-project.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Interest] "Flat Light" Style How?
> > >
> > > "The Qt Quick Enterprise Controls Styles module allows custom styling
> > for Qt Quick Enterprise Controls."
> > >
> > > I want standard controls to be styled too... I thought that it would
> > style all controls, not just the enterprise ones as seen in
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMs1pSZMnG0 about 2:00 in. The page you
> > directed me to only lists:
> > > CircularGaugeStyle
> > > DelayButtonStyle
> > > DialStyle
> > > GaugeStyle
> > > PieMenuStyle
> > > StatusIndicatorStyle
> > > ToggleButtonStyle
> > > TumblerStyle
> > >
> > > I hope there are more styles than that?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 at 11:59 AM
> > > > From: "Agocs Laszlo" <laszlo.agocs at theqtcompany.com>
> > > > To: "Jason H" <jhihn at gmx.com>, "interest at qt-project.org"
> > <interest at qt-project.org>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Interest] "Flat Light" Style How?
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > See
> > http://doc.qt.io/QtQuickEnterpriseControls/qtquickenterprisecontrolsstyl
> > es-index.html regarding switching styles.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Laszlo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > From: interest-bounces+laszlo.agocs=theqtcompany.com at qt-project.org
> > <interest-bounces+laszlo.agocs=theqtcompany.com at qt-project.org> on
> > behalf of Jason H <jhihn at gmx.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2015 5:52 PM
> > > > To: interest at qt-project.org
> > > > Subject: [Interest] "Flat Light" Style How?
> > > >
> > > > I have a commercial license and I can not find any info on how to
> > use "Flat Light" style.
> > > >
> > > > Can someone clue me in?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > Interest at qt-project.org
> > > > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest
> > > >
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