[Interest] L Word

Roland Hughes roland at logikalsolutions.com
Thu Apr 29 00:08:24 CEST 2021

On 4/21/21 5:00 AM, Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote:
> On your right: witness B, found to be lying multiple times in the past

I have never lied in here. Been incorrect at times? Most assuredly at 
some point. I have never lied.



(L1)To lie =_df to make a believed-false statement to another person 
with the intention that the other person believe that statement to be true.

L1 is the traditional definition of lying. According to L1, there are at 
least four necessary conditions for lying. First, lying requires that a 
person make a statement (statement condition). Second, **lying requires 
that the person believe the statement to be false**; that is, lying 
requires that the statement be untruthful (untruthfulness condition). 
Third, lying requires that the untruthful statement be made to another 
person (addressee condition). Fourth, lying requires that the person 
intend that that other person believe the untruthful statement to be 
true (intention to deceive the addressee condition).


Long ago I came to terms with every Usenet news group or Internet 
mailing list comes one troll with a God complex. They have skin ten 
thousands of an inch thick and consider everything a personal insult. 
For whatever reason, you've chosen to be that here. Fine.

What I can't understand is why the moderators haven't yet put you on a 
forced 18+month vacation, especially given all of the emails coming 
around off-list.

Here's the thing.

I don't care when Internet trolls call me names or even when they accuse 
me of vile physical relationships with blood relatives, family pets, or 
farm animals. It's what trolls do. Be on the Internet long enough and 
you figure it out. Apparently I have rather thick skin because I 
generally don't even notice things others call personal insults. I don't 
care when people try to hold up my code and laugh at it. Very few things 
I write compile on the very first attempt. Most certainly they tend to 
compile and run incorrectly until I track down the major issues and some 
of the minor ones. Generally I'm confident that I have many thousands 
(many tens of thousands most likely) of code in devices that are helping 
to save lives each and every day. Most of the people who try to laugh at 
my code don't have that, and I know this.

None of that bothers me in general. It might irritate at the end of a 
particularly long and frustrating day, but in general it's just gas.

When you made that statement, you jumped with both feet onto the L Word.


You weren't directly responding to a single statement with something 
like "That's a lie" stating disbelief. You directly attacked my 
professional integrity without citation.

Before you go reaching for the old chestnut of K with no meaning be advised:


in Message-ID: <10924316.ADL2evRJuH at tjmaciei-mobl1> Thiago stated

The KDE representative to the KDE Free Qt Foundation was also there and 
he says he's
the one who tried to retroactively call it "Kool" but it didn't stick.

That's the opposite of Linux, where the original author had a different name
for his project when he first uploaded it and it didn't stick.


My statements were based on the official upload/entry/registration. 
Everybody arguing with me had a passion for a development code name. 
They don't appear to have the same passion when it comes to Windows 10. 
I don't hear any of them calling it Redstone, Santorini, Vibranium, etc.


People remember from official release and registration. That's what 
people (not me) are writing books about.

Hopefully you aren't going to reach for what Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum 
discussed with me on dart nights at Two Rivers because nobody in this 
list was there.

Sadly, you did this using your kdab.com email address, thus exposing 
them as well.

I guess I can give you until end of day on Monday (locally for me in the 
Chicago timezone) to scrounge through the archives and identify at least 
two messages from me (you did say multiple) that meet the Standford 
definition of a lie. You can't, but I'm willing to let you try. Keep 
this in mind:

**lying requires that the person believe the statement to be false**


You can make amends, here, publicly, and go away for a while whether it 
is imposed or not.

Failing that I will have to pursue this via other avenues.

My apologies to everyone else for them having to read this.

Roland Hughes, President
Logikal Solutions


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