[PySide] PySide is Dead?

Jason McCampbell jmccampbell at enthought.com
Mon Dec 10 17:26:57 CET 2012

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Stephan Deibel <sdeibel at wingware.com>wrote:

> Algis Kabaila wrote:
> >
> > I've been away from PySide, and even Python, for several months. In
> > fact, for many month. So if I want to take it up again, should I go to
> > PyQt or PySide? My time is running out. Like running really out.
> > permanently. So where is PySide at?
> >
> The issue for at least some of us is PyQt's licensing.  It would be
> impossible for us to use PyQt so we don't have this choice.  If you do,
> then PyQt is probably going to be more mature to work with.
> To be more specific:  We have a scripting API for our product, which is
> used by software developers.  PyQt's licensing model would define all
> our customers as PyQt developers and thus require the developer license
> fee for each (which I think costs more than our product).

I can heartily second this use case. A lot of the applications we create
provide a Python prompt and can sometimes run afoul of the license.

> I don't know the details of why e.g. Nokia didn't want to use PyQt but
> it may be essentially the same thing.  So it may be the PySide user base
> will turn out to be mainly commercial companies w/ a scripting API in
> their product that allows some sort of access to PyQt.
> > Yes, short of knowledgeable people. Who is not?! I just looked up
> > mailing list archives. To call it an archive is a joke - start at
> > February 2012, indeed! Where are the earlier emails? I can not believe
> > that everything prior to Feb 2012 is lost. If it is, then the written
> > history is lost and it sure means "death by a thousand cuts".
> >
> I don't know about the email archives specifically but a bunch of stuff
> was lost in the transition from Nokia.  Some of it can be found via
> archive.com's Way Back Machine (enter the URL there and you get a
> calendar w/ marks for the snapshots they have stored).  However, I don't
> know what the old URLs for the archives would have been.  Anyone know
> that?  If so, can you note this in the wiki?
> As far as how PySide moves forward:  I think it's a question of whether
> there are enough people around in the same shoes of not being able to
> use PyQt.  Globally, there probably are.  But there is still going to be
> a transition period the project needs to go through.

We are very interested in seeing the community make it through the
transition and move forward as well. Thoughts on what is needed to help
spur the process? How do we start to gather that community together? Is
there interest in something like a Birds of a Feather meeting at PyConn to
get interested parties together?

> - Stephan
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*Jason McCampbell*
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