[PySide] Web site transfer

Tue May 1 18:26:52 CEST 2012

Matti, Let me know if you need help in migration. I sent you my contacts in
a dm.

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Alexander Jones <aj at dneg.com> wrote:

> Are we not able to just migrate all of the old website content onto the
> main Qt website in the longer term? Hosting a HTTP 301 'moved
> permanently'-issuing website to keep old links alive indefinitely would be
> very cheap.
>
>
> On 30 April 2012 18:39, Hugo Parente Lima <hugo.lima at openbossa.org> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, April 30, 2012 10:30:46 AM Srini Kommoori wrote:
>> > I would like to propose S3/github for website hosting. It is pretty
>> easy to
>> > setup and we can automate to push the code/html pages very easily.
>>
>> I agree, github for website hosting.
>> About the tarballs, we have tags on git for each release, so IMO tarballs
>> are
>> just another way of offer the same information and we can discard if it's
>> causing troubles.
>>
>> > Here is my preferred service list:
>> > S3/github for all static pages.
>> > Blog - Blogger/Tumblr with multi user submits.
>> > Wiki -  [No change] Seems like already integrated with Qt main site.
>> > Code - [No change] gitorious
>> >
>> > I can help and sponsor for the expenses(if any) related to the
>> migration.
>> >
>> > thanks,
>> > -Srini
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Erik Janssens
>> >
>> > <Erik.Janssens at conceptive.be>wrote:
>> > > Hello,
>> > >
>> > > We have a professional Weebly account,
>> > > (http://www.weebly.com/) and can offer a site account for
>> > > this purpose.
>> > >
>> > > A Weebly site can host web pages + images + forms.  But it's
>> > > not suited to offer source or binary packages for download.
>> > >
>> > > The downside of using Weebly is that the site should be rebuild
>> > > from scratch, something I estimate to be a couple of hours work
>> > > for someone experienced with CSS, html.
>> > >
>> > > The upside being that it's very easy to maintain.
>> > >
>> > > Just let me know if this would be interesting...
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > >
>> > > Erik
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 14:45 +0300, Matti Airas wrote:
>> > > > Hi list,
>> > > >
>> > > > There's one final thing in the PySide migration to Qt add-on: the
>> > > > website. I've been trying to have the migration arranged, but
>> progress
>> > > > has been very slow. Also, May 3 is my last work-day at Nokia, so
>> that
>> > > > complicates things further.
>> > > >
>> > > > PySide is currently hosted at a Virtual Machine provided by Nokia
>> IT,
>> > > > which has made it easy because there have not been any fees or
>> bandwidth
>> > > > quotas (and the connectivity has been quite excellent).
>> Unfortunately,
>> > > > that VM is leased only until end of June, so arrangements need to be
>> > > > made pretty soon.
>> > > >
>> > > > Unfortunately, Qt Project is unwilling to provide a virtual machine
>> for
>> > > > PySide, and therefore a direct migration of the VM is not feasible.
>> They
>> > > > have proposed that they can host the static content (binaries,
>> > > > documentation & doc packages) which account for vast majority of the
>> > > > traffic anyway. Then, the current WordPress site contents (which
>> isn't
>> > > > much any longer, anyway) could be moved to the wiki, with a
>> possibility
>> > > > to have a static landing page as the home page. The news blog would
>> then
>> > > > need to be migrated to any free 3rd-party blogging platform such as
>> > > > wordpress.com. This is probably doable and something that the
>> project
>> > > > could live with, but it does require additional effort and decrease
>> the
>> > > > level of service somewhat, both for the administrators (no access
>> to WP
>> > > > authoring tools) and for the end-users (URLs for binaries and docs
>> > > > change, blog aggregation needs to be updated). In the long term,
>> this
>> > > > would be the approach requiring the least amount of maintenance.
>> > > >
>> > > > Another alternative which could be feasible is to have a VM
>> elsewhere
>> > > > and Qt Project would just point the DNS there. The VM requirements
>> are
>> > > > not huge: the current VM is a single-core one Xeon 2.5 GHz with 2
>> GB of
>> > > > allocated memory and 40 GB of disk space. However, the site
>> generates
>> > > > quite some traffic - in April, 120 GB, and the number has been
>> > > > increasing at a steady pace. Also, having a separate VM would
>> require a
>> > > > dedicated admin who would be willing to maintain the VM, take
>> backups,
>> > >
>> > > etc.
>> > >
>> > > > I would like to hear your opinions on this one. In the first
>> option, the
>> > > > up front work and changes would be bigger but the long-term effort
>> > > > lower, and no external costs would be incurred. In the latter
>> option,
>> > > > the migration would be less painful but having the VM would require
>> more
>> > > > maintenance in the future, and recurring payments would occur.
>> > > >
>> > > > Also, I'd like to call for volunteers to help with the migration
>> and the
>> > > > future maintenance. As said, my work obligation at Nokia is ending
>> and
>> > > > while I'm not vanishing altogether, it'd be helpful if someone else
>> > > > could take the lead. Srini, you volunteered for the webmaster and
>> > > > wikimaster duties in February - although this might not be what you
>> had
>> > > > in mind, would you still be interested?
>> > > >
>> > > > Also, if a separate VM is desired, a sponsor is needed for that. I
>> > > > wonder if any companies would be interested in providing that, for a
>> > > > modest logo or banner visibility on the web site? A basic 3rd-party
>> VM
>> > > > with that amount of traffic would cost some 40-50 EUR/USD a month.
>> Not a
>> > > > huge sum, but I wouldn't feel happy paying it out of my own pocket,
>> > > > especially with the steadily increasing traffic.
>> > > >
>> > > > Cheers,
>> > > >
>> > > > Matti Airas
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