[Qt-interest] Qt for the iPad?

[BRM]

While I would prefer Apple to allow Qt apps, that is there choice. Just like it would be Microsoft's choice to only allow .NET on Windows/WinCE if they so decided.
Difference is, Microsoft provides the OS, but not the hardware (in most cases) so they have a harder time enforcing that with the exception of things like the XBox.

The other major difference is that Apple isn't trying to push Carbon/etc as a Platform-neutral API and then only support it on their own native platforms, where as Microsoft pushes .Net/C# as a platform neutral API but only supports it on Windows and then gives pseudo-support to Novell/Mono for Linux/Mac/Unix/etc.

So yes - Apple isn't being very friendly, but they're well within their rights to do so; and they are not interfering in the market place either.

And yes - I am very much one that doesn't like the ilks of Microsoft and their Embrace/Extend/Extinguish business methodology.

Ben


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>From: Elfen <pem.accounts.spam at gmail.com>
>To: Jason H <scorp1us at yahoo.com>
>Cc: Thiago Macieira <thiago at kde.org>; qt-interest at trolltech.com
>Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 5:01:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [Qt-interest] Qt for the iPad?
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>I agree it is frustrating with Apple arbitrarily rejecting huge projects like Qt and Adobe Flash...  Another one I worry about is how Novell spent all this effort on MonoTouch (for C# on iPhone), and developers who use it, and who knows if Apple will arbitrarily block all apps compiled with MonoTouch too.  For anyone who has ever complained about Microsoft (instead of complaining about Apple)...  There's probably a phrase for someone who persecutes minor offenses (like Microsoft), and then ignores huge offenses (like Apple, like Intel).
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>In any event, I personally am more into Qt for the desktop support (Windows, Mac, GNOME, KDE).  I hope Qt is able to keep a strong desktop focus, despite being owned by a mobile company (Nokia).
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>>On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Jason H <scorp1us at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>That is ingenious!
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>>>>And you are right, Mobility definitely has that ability. I am wondering how QtMobility would interface with the device HW. If everything is made accessible via Java, then there would need to be a Qt/Java bridge... This is beyond my knowledge at this time. Anyone have an idea how that hardware interacts with the java apps?
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>>>>----- Original Message ----
>>>>From: Thiago Macieira <thiago at kde.org>
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>>To: qt-interest at trolltech.com
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>>Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 3:45:44 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Qt-interest] Qt for the iPad?
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>>Em Segunda-feira 12. Abril 2010, às 20.17.38, Jason H escreveu:
>>>>> Maybe focus moves to Android now? If I could straddle two platforms (Nokia.
>>>>> Google) it would still be worth it to me.
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>>>>There is also a community port of Qt to Android and they have already managed
>>>>to get applications running. The solution they found was to make the
>>>>application an .so and place it inside the .jar file, alongside a stub loader
>>>>that calls out to your C++ code. Quite an ingenious solution, if you ask me.
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>>>>The big advantage of Android is that it's Linux, so most of the code in Qt
>>>>simply works out of the box. And with the Lighthouse project, the UI part is
>>>>coming along nicely.
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>>>>The disadvantage is that it's not like any other Linux. The libc is broken,
>>>>pthread support is lacking, etc.
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>>>>> However, QtMobility would need
>>>>> to be outfitted with a lot of Android dongles, and I don't think Mobility
>>>>> is ready for that yet...
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>>>>Mobility has been designed from day 1 to have different backends, depending on
>>>>the platform. This would require only writing of such backends for Android.
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